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Re: Geronimo's last Springfield

Posted by Lawrence F. Nirenberg on Monday, 16 September 2019, at 12:00 p.m., in response to Re: Geronimo's last Springfield, posted by roger on Sunday, 15 September 2019, at 9:22 p.m.

Roger, Dick, Steven and Others;

As I tried to explain earlier, I had contacted the Springfield Armory Museum in 1979 - '80 and spoke to the Curator about my T.D. He knew what I was describing to him, and gave me this information. All Springfield manufactured Trigger Guard Assembly, both rifle and carbine, from the early years through the Model 1888 were ELLIPTICAL (HALF MOON SHAPED).The difference pointed out between the rifle/rifles held by Geronimo, in the studio in '84 and in the field in March of '86 is as follows. (Notice also that in the last photo taken just before the final surrender the chief of the band, Natchez is holding a shortened rifle with the same odd trigger guard assembly.) The trigger guard assembly on the studio "Prop" rifle, the rifle held by Geronimo at the March '86 Crook surrender talks, the shortened rifle mounted in a carbine stock in the hands of Chief Natchez are all SQUARED OFF AT THE FRONT OF THE GUARD and NOT ELLIPTICAL. The trigger guard assembly runs back from an almost 90 degree angle at the front flat back to an elliptical shape at the rear. This is easily see in every photo when enlarged. This is the exact shape of the trigger guard assembly on the shortened rifle I own. At the very least these firearms were likely altered by the same Apache or are one and the same firearm. I promised I'll soon send close up photos of my T.D.'s trigger guard assembly showing what I've been referring to. Thanks to all for your patience.


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