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Re: Custer rifle

Posted by david on Friday, 14 July 2017, at 11:50 a.m., in response to Re: Custer rifle, posted by mike on Tuesday, 11 July 2017, at 9:37 p.m.

Very interesting posts from everybody on this subject. In 1982 I was on the Crow reservation and traded a 8mm Turkish Mauser and 2 boxs of shells straight across for a .45-70 Trapdoor cutdown that was in deplorable condition, but was still being used as a .410 shotgun. I had no real interest in it for myself, but the new construction rep. for Union Oil Minerals ( Bill Baker ) wanted a wall hanger that would be a good conversation piece, and this was just the ticket. The stock was broken across the wrist, and repaired with stitched leather. The extractor was broken off, (He removed the casings with a nail). There was no front sight, as the barrel had been sawed off to about 20 inches.The rear sight was gone and broken screws in the holes The bore was a sewer pipe.The trigger guard was missing the swivel, and damaged in the front, but could still get a finger in to use it. It was a beat up piece of junk. I got no story from the man about the rifle, nor did I ask. He was walking with it when I saw him. I gave the rifle to Bill, and later when the Uranium facility shut down he got me a transfer to Colorado in return favor... The best investment I ever made, as over 200 guys lost their jobs.I stayed with the company, and got in 20 years with them to get a retirement pension, ect.

The reason for my post is could it be possible that Mikes rifle was in the same condition more or less? He said that his father spent a lot of time cleaning, and refinishing the rifle in the 1950's. Perhaps he was trying to make it look better, and replaced the missing or damaged parts thru Dixie Gun Works or other suppliers, and not knowing any difference between models, used them because they fit. His problem then would be that the patinas would not match, and retract from the appearance. Solution... He removed all finish, sanded, polished and re-blued the gun to make it look better. Perhaps The Crow Scouts for the Army, or the later Indian police used the standard rifles. Perhaps also the old Indian was in the campaign with the Army, against the hostiles. I do not think he bought it from Bannerman or elsewhere, because it was in too poor of a condition. Just my thoughts.


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