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Re: Oh, really??

Posted by John S. on Sunday, 26 February 2017, at 1:11 p.m., in response to Oh, really??, posted by Dick Hosmer on Sunday, 26 February 2017, at 4:24 a.m.

I don't think this is the same "double extractor" gun which went through one of the auction houses recently, and received some skeptical comments here.

The seller needs to invest in a couple of light bulbs so you can see the items, unless that is a selling strategy, as his other (high dollar shotgun) photos seem to be a lot better quality.

Buy the gun, not the story, so here is what I see: An old gun with reasonably consistent condition and patina. The markings are professionally done with fonts appropriate to circa 1876-1880 and appear to have considerable age. The double extractor modification is done in a workmanlike manner, not Bubba with a hammer and file. The way the sights are mounted is an anamoly that raises a lot of questions, if not doubt. It is a narrow receiver in a stock with inletting for a wide receiver. The serial number is never mentioned (only alluded to) and cannot be read in the crappy photo.

The markings, while well done, seem to be "a bit much" although it may just be local pride in a job well done, so mark it up to make the boss proud or look good. Of course, why Benecia would be making this is an unanswered question, and if they did make it, why it remained there instead of being sent to Springfield or the Ordnance Department as a recommendation is another unanswered question.

Note that the seller's description makes no claims other than repeating the markings and stating it was "Built at Benecia Arsenal."

Most of the information seems to be based on the undated, unsigned letter from an unknown party. Much of that info seem to be of doubtful accuracy or wild speculation.

The letter cites a "late COL Gerald Dickson" who may or may not be my old friend LTC Gerald Dickson, USAF (Ret) who was primarily a Colt collector. I knew him well from 1995 until is passing in 2010, and if he had ever owned this during that time I am sure he would have shown it to me. He was an enthusiastic collector and excellent with Colts, but was sometimes a bit over eager and overlooked small warning signs and got stuck with a few bad pieces. (Reminds me of Harold Peterson's warning "I don't worry about the fakes I recognize, but I worry a lot about those I don't recognize.") If it was my friend who was named, I am sure that he would only have been repeating what a prior owner had told him about this, as Springfields of any sort were outside his expertise. Of course, it may be an entirely different individual.

I do not know what this is, but I do know I won't be spending my money on it. Maybe I would be passing up a great opportunity---- to prove P.T. Barnum's assertion that there is a sucker born every minute.


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