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Trapdoor Recall and upgrades in Jan. of 1880

Posted by Michael H. Collins on Friday, 10 April 2015, at 11:21 p.m.

I've been thinking about the above. The ordinance Dept. issued the order for all rifles and carbines under the serial number of 50,000 to be returned to the national armory for disposition. In Joe Poyer and Craig Riesch's book it states that approximently 22,300 rifles and carbines were rebuilt and upgraded using new 1878 parts. Of these 50,000 weapons there were approximently 20,000 carbines made and approximently 30,000 rifles manufactured. Only a couple hundred cadets were manufactured during this period when the first 50,000 weapons were manufactured. I'm wondering how many total weapons were returned for disposition. For example if 40,000 total weapons were returned for disposition out of a total of about 50,000 possible and 22,300 were rebuilt and upgraded it follows that some if not many more could have been largely totaled out and only a small percentage of their parts from each of those badly damaged or worn out guns were recycled and reused. Does anyone know how many Rifles and Carbines made it back to the armory under this recall? Could it have been 40-45,000? 30-35,000? or do the experts use the 22,300 number mentioned in the books. I'm thinking that the armory did not record serial numbers and model data from the returned weapons but they may have or should have records of the total weapons returned and inspected and mic'd out. I'd really like to get a handle on how many came back under 50,000. Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated. This topic has probably been covered here before in prior years but I'm a relative newcomer here. Sincerely, Michael H. Collins


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