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Re: Springfield Armory question

Posted by Chip Smith on Friday, 13 February 2015, at 9:51 p.m., in response to Re: Springfield Armory question, posted by Chip Smith on Friday, 13 February 2015, at 7:34 p.m.

First off, sorry for being a bit off line with this topic. And thanks

I tried putting in a link to photos, could not

The story so far. I picked up an 1860 Spencer 3 band rifle from an auction. I saw the cartridge giude was different than any of my other Spencers, but figured it was just a modification, and I could look up to see where it came in. (I found there is a picture of one in Roy Marcotts book on Spencers, labeled as an experimental cartridge guide)

On looking the gun over after I got it, I saw the VP Eagle, of Springfield arsenal on the barrel. While looking at that, It seemed to me the bore was small. A quick check reveled it was closer to 45 cal than 50. I slugged the barrel and it came out as 465. Strange. So I did a chamber cast, ant out came a cast for the 56-46 Spencer round. Though this round was used in post war Spencer sporting rifles, it was actually first tested during the Civil War by the Springfield Armory.

There is what at first though was a rack mark on the butt stock. I pulled the fore wood to check the witness mark, and found a 3 stamped on the front of the action and on the barrel. The witness mark is good. So now I wonder if the 3 /4 on the butt stock doesn't mean number 3 of 4. Which sounds logical on a prototype run.

I know they converted Burnside made Spencer carbines to rifles after the war. I have one and this is completely different, this is a 3 band not 2.

I have enclosed some photos to help. It has a lane extractor, and the breach block assembly is different from my other Spencers. I sent photos to MR Marcott, and in his opinion from the photos, it is a trials rifle from SA, that being said, he has not physically seen the rifle. He stated that he has seen some Springfield made carbines like this, but never a 3 band rifle.

Though I collect antique rifles, if this is a test gun, it is really outside my scope

The story so far. I picked up an 1860 Spencer 3 band rifle from an auction. I saw the cartridge giude was different than any of my other Spencers, but figured it was just a modification, and I could look up to see where it came in. (I found there is a picture of one in Roy Marcotts book on Spencers, labeled as an experimental cartridge guide)

On looking the gun over after I got it, I saw the VP Eagle, of Springfield arsenal on the barrel. While looking at that, It seemed to me the bore was small. A quick check reveled it was closer to 45 cal than 50. I slugged the barrel and it came out as 465. Strange. So I did a chamber cast, ant out came a cast for the 56-46 Spencer round. Though this round was used in post war Spencer sporting rifles, it was actually first tested during the Civil War by the Springfield Armory.

There is what at first though was a rack mark on the butt stock. I pulled the fore wood to check the witness mark, and found a 3 stamped on the front of the action and on the barrel. The witness mark is good. So now I wonder if the 3 /4 on the butt stock doesn't mean number 3 of 4. Which sounds logical on a prototype run.

I know they converted Burnside made Spencer carbines to rifles after the war. I have one and this is completely different, this is a 3 band not 2.

I have enclosed some photos to help. It has a lane extractor, and the breach block assembly is different from my other Spencers. I sent photos to MR Marcott, and in his opinion from the photos, it is a trials rifle from SA, that being said, he has not physically seen the rifle. He stated that he has seen some Springfield made carbines like this, but never a 3 band rifle.

Though I collect antique rifles, if this is a test gun, it is really outside my scope


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