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Re: trapdoor Springfield carbine vs cut-down rifle

Posted by Dick Hosmer on Wednesday, 29 October 2014, at 4:01 p.m., in response to trapdoor Springfield carbine vs cut-down rifle, posted by Brian Meyette on Wednesday, 29 October 2014, at 2:45 p.m.

Well, it is a bit more complex than that!!!!

While MOST rifles do NOT have a trap, and MOST carbines DO, both types come both ways!

Carbines made before 1877, or below approximately 50,000, had solid butt-plates with no hole(s) in the wood. All carbines made after that had the trap butt-plate, and holes in the wood, though there are slight variances depending on model.

Most rifles below approximately 500,000 (roughly 1890) had solid butt-plates, with no holes in the wood. After that - the so-called M1888 rod-bayonet rifle used a carbine butt-plate and had holes underneath. The were also a few small runs of experimental rod-bayonet rifles in 1880, 1882, and 1884 which had the trap plate and holes in wood, but they are beyond this general discussion.

NO carbine EVER had a patched or filled stock! ANY diddling with the wood at the front end means a cut-down!

EVERY carbine had a sling bar and ring at the left side, with flawless inletting.

Traps/wood holes in carbines were ALWAYS for the cleaning rods, and so are deep.

Traps/wood holes in rod-bayonet rifles were ALWAYS for tools and are shallow.

That will help for 95% of the cases you will encounter. For more specific help, just ask.


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