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Re: problem with loading an 1884 trapdoor

Posted by Dick Hosmer on Sunday, 14 September 2014, at 10:24 a.m., in response to Re: problem with loading an 1884 trapdoor, posted by joe on Sunday, 14 September 2014, at 9:27 a.m.

It should not be hard to close the block at all - yes, there is some "resistance" as in perhaps pressing with only your pinky finger wouldn't do it, but your thumb should easily be able to close the block.

Another question - has this rifle EVER been fired by you. or someone you know? Also, can you try another type of ammunition? Assuming that it will eventually get fixed, even if the ammo you buy isn't what you wanted, it can still be shot and you will have the cases for future use. Or, if you are friends with your local gun shop, perhaps you could return the box as long as you didn't scuff up the round(s) as to be unsalable?

The cartridge should basically "drop in" - all that you should have to overcome is the extractor spring. How does the block close with no cartridge? Feeling should be very similar - if it snaps freely open and shut, then there is no issue with the mechanism - and you either have an obstruction, or a too-large round.

Who loaded the "cowboy ammo"? Was it a friend, or one of the niche manufacturers? I'd try rounds from a box of new Winchester or Remington 405-grain jacketed, which should be strictly to SAAMI specs, and would also remove any variables as to being off-length, poorly assembled, or with a poorly cast, or over-lubed bullet. If the jacketed stuff chambers, the problem is with the ammo - if it doesn't, you almost certainly have an obstruction, which will almost certainly prove to be a case-mouth. BTW, a cleaning brush will not do it - you, or a gunsmith, will have to make a little hook, and pull the offending piece out from the rear.

It will be pointed out that there were two types of "headless shell extractor" furnished by the army, but they were meant for immediate use on a fresh break and might not be effective on something burnished in place for over 100 years (if you have no shooting history on the piece).

Keep at it - we have solved worse here!!


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