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Re: Got lucky on Gunbroker today - 68/68

Posted by Fred on Wednesday, 3 September 2014, at 10:47 a.m., in response to Re: Got lucky on Gunbroker today - 68/68, posted by Dick Hosmer on Tuesday, 2 September 2014, at 10:48 p.m.

OK, the receiver is definitely an 1870 model The rear sight is spaced appropriately like an 1870 The breech block is definitely an 1868 model though As you remember, the stock has had the lock mortise sanded down like a 45-70 There is no serial number on the back of the receiver as on a 45-70 and none on the left side of the barrel and receiver as on an 1868, so I'd say that the rifle is a composite of an 1870 barrel and receiver with an 1868 breech block. As far as his assessment of what date is shown on the breechblock, he was all over the map while looking at it and at first he said it was 1860, then 1850, then 1863, then finally and definitely 1870. I still remember seeing it many times as 1868 before there was any surface corrosion over it. There didn't seem to be any word MODEL used on the breech block. So...I think that it's still quite possible that the breech clock says 1868 and now that I've established a friendly relationship so to speak with my cousin after not speaking or visiting with him for about 50 years, I'm certain that when Gisele and I fly out to Seattle to visit her brother and sister in law, I will definitely and finally be able to drop by and visit with Warren's family and my aunt Helen and look at the rifle for myself. He isn't interested or knowledgeable about firearms and so I should be able to also look at the 44 revolver that my great grandpa, Levi Merit Shippee took from the young Dalton boy who was using it to shoot holes in the ceiling and floor of the Missouri Pacific Railroad depot in the 1870's or 1880's in Greenleaf, Kansas. as well as lining up the future acquisition of the oil painting of General U.S. Grant with the bullet hole in the breast of his blue coat. That occurred when a Confederate veteran who was passing through on a train got off in Greenleaf and went into the bar for a drink or two or ten and after looking at the oil painting of Grant in his blue Yankee coat with its shiny brass buttons for some time, finally couldn't take it anymore and feeling his whisky, drew his revolver and put a bullet into the painting. My great grandpa and another guy threw the rebel out of the bar then. The painting was repaired a bit with an application of dark paint and I'd imagine a small bit of canvas, but the bullet hole is still visible in the breast of the General.


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