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Re: Varget as a smokeless propellant for low-power 45-70?

Posted by Ernie Brandt on Thursday, 24 July 2014, at 10:24 p.m., in response to Re: Varget as a smokeless propellant for low-power 45-70?, posted by Rick Baker on Wednesday, 16 July 2014, at 4:09 p.m.


Here is your info on the loads.

Black Powder load: 70 grains BP & 512.0 grain bullet. The bp was heavily compacted and caked in the case. I had to scrap the powder out of the case to measure it.

Varget Load: 34.1 actual, (35) grains powder. 402 gr. bullet. NO filler. This would put this load at about 15,000 cup with a 402 grain bullet. That is on the low side for loads but ok for killing paper targets. A good load for the 402 grain bullet & Varget would be in the 40 to 50 grain range. 40 gr. at 15,600 cup & 50 gr. at 20,900 cup. This is according to the Hodgdon data book.

Has anybody worked up a favorite Varget load?

I have contacted Ultramax in the past about their 47-70 loading. They state that the product is loaded with smokeless powder, bullet weight unknown, & has a velocity of 1088. Very safe for the TD.

Good to talk to you today. Have fun but be safe.

Ernie B.


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