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Re: Circle P

Posted by Dick Hosmer on Wednesday, 26 March 2014, at 10:43 a.m., in response to Circle P, posted by Jim Meredith on Wednesday, 26 March 2014, at 9:47 a.m.

Numerous guns (including Krags) are known with only the (P) and no wrist cartouche. AFAIK this normally indicates the function testing of an arm with a replaced stock, although it can get a bit more exotic as well. Technically speaking, the wrist cartouche can be interpreted as "acceptance into ordnance stores".

My sporting rifle (special order fab for private sale - #51789) has a (P) but no (ESA). My Hotchkiss Army #101 is one of the two rifles fully assembled at Winchester as patterns for the trial guns - it has a strong (P) but lacks the expected (ESA/1878). Whether this indicates a stock furnished to Winchester, or a little "brotherly competition" testing of the finish product after receipt at SA, I do not know.

I would think that the presence of just a circle with no trace of the P would be strange, since I'm sure it was a one-piece stamp.


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