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Re: Interesting Trapdoor Carbine.

Posted by Paul Eshleman on Wednesday, 9 October 2013, at 10:44 p.m., in response to Re: Interesting Trapdoor Carbine., posted by Michael H. Collins on Wednesday, 9 October 2013, at 9:10 p.m.

`This is a letter from Springfield Research Service for information on Trapdoor Carbine S/N 17xxx.

In response to your request for information on Trapdoor Carbine S/N 17xxx please be advised that the records of the US Army Chief of Ordnance`s office shows that this Carbine was turned in to the Cheyenne Ordnance Depot by Maj. A.W. Evans, 3rd Cavalry of Fort Laramie, Wyoming 1879.

The document containing this s/n and the above information was a report by Lt. W.B. Weir of the Ordnance Depot to the Commanding Officer Springfield Armory, describing damage done to 46 Carbines and 11 Rifles that he had shipped to the Armory for repair or salvage. Originally this document included from the commands responsible for the weapons explaining on how the damage occurred. As indicated in the enclosed copy, S/N 17xxx had a swollen barrel at the muzzle. (Blocked bore when fired) most likely the reason. As an aside, Lt. Weir was killed in action with the UTE Indians just 3 months from filing this report.

The information on s/n 17xxx was found in the Chief of Ordnance correspondence files at the National Archives. This specific citation for the enclosed copy is record group 156 file 525 (1879).

I have copy`s of the documents and look up inventory on this Carbine.

I live 12 miles from the Battle of the LBH so I have a lot of interest in the Indian Wars. Of course the Battle of the LBH gets all the attention.

This Carbine being documented to the 3rd Cavalry probably saw a lot of action in the Indian wars. 10 company`s of the 3rd Cavalry were at the Battle of the Rosebud on June 17 1876. This was the largest battle of the Indian wars and was prelude to the LBH. So there was a good chance this Carbine was there. Elements of the 3rd cavalry were also at the Battle of Powder River, Slim buttes and the dull knife fight. Anyway its a Carbine that probably has a lot of history that we will never know. Paul Eshleman


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