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Why my hair is white
Posted by Dick Hosmer on Wednesday, 21 August 2013, at 11:11 p.m.
A typical day in the life of a trapdoor nerd - browsing Gunbroker. See359392581.
Following is the email dialogue to date. Note that neither of us resorted to profanity (though I was sorely tempted).
We know that you cannot fix stupid, but I am beginning to suspect you cannot fix ignorant either:
(ME) Uhhh - you have your descriptions mixed up! THIS gun (a late production US Model 1870, of Allin design) is not a Joslyn, in any way, shape, or form. You might want to check out www.picturetrail.com/sa4570af for pictures of both.
(HIM) THIS IS NOT A 45-70, IT IS A 50-70 C.F. , YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK OUT BOOK & PAGE IN OUR DESCIPTION, THANKS, HUCK.....
(ME) I never said it was a .45-70 - I said that your description (of a Springfield/Joslyn) does not match your pictures, which are of an 1870 trapdoor. I own both versions of the Springfield/Joslyn (rimfire and centerfire) as well as four M1870 TDs. They are NOT the same gun, nor is one model the descendant of the other.
(HIM) OK-DICK, BUT I HAVE TO GO BY BOOK WITH PROOF, IF YOU CHECK OUT THE BOOK IN DESCRIPTION YOU WILL FIND IN 1972 NEW RECORDS FROM SPRINGFIELD PROVE WHAT WE SAY, THANKS, HUCK.....
(ME) There is nothing wrong with your description - it just doesn't match the rifle (a very nice one by the way) which is pictured in the same auction!! Possibly, YOU should check the book that I wrote (after having specialized in that period for over 40 years): "The .58 and .50 Caliber Rifles of Springfield Armory, 1865-1872." The Joslyn and Allin ("trapdoor") actions have almost nothing in common.
(HIM) YOU WERE CORRECT UNTIL 1970, DO HAVE THE BOOK IN MY DESCRIPTION, WE ALL GO BY THE BOOKS, THANKS, HUCK.....
(ME) I should know better than to continue this, but it is sort of fun, in a juvenile way. Once again, in case you missed it: There is nothing wrong with your text, at all - I UNDERSTAND that the Springfield/Joslyn was misunderstood until the early 1970s. THAT is NOT the problem - the problem is that the gun you picture in that auction is NOT a Joslyn. Is it not possible that you, or your staff, made a simple posting mistake? We may all go by the books (and some of us even write them) but it is clear that reading and understanding what one has read may not be the same thing.
(HIM) DICK, IT IS ADVERTISED AS A SPRINGFIELD RIFLE, THANKS, HUCK.....
Not sure if I'll go any further!
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