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Re: Article in Man At Arms

Posted by Don Harpold on Monday, 22 August 2011, at 8:20 p.m., in response to Re: Article in Man At Arms, posted by John on Monday, 22 August 2011, at 1:56 p.m.

I have always been skeptical of the "Forensic Match's" this is from a post of mine from a year or two ago.

"Since the archeological findings were mentioned I thought I would copy this from "The Battle at K-H Butte, Apache Outbreak-1881 Arizona Territory" by Larry L. Ludwig and James L. Stute.

They mapped and tracked the movements of the soldiers and Indians at the battle and collected artifacts for research. The battle was between 6th and 1st Cavalry and White Mountain and Chiricahuas Apache.

This is the last paragraph of chapter 2.

"Lab Work:

At the lab, the artifacts were cleaned, identified and cataloged. In the case of cartridges, headstamp, manufacturer, primer type and any oddities were noted. Each artifact was then plotted on a color coded scale map of the battle site. Red markings signified Apache artifacts and Blue markings identified cavalry items.

Since each artifact was bagged and mapped separately, it was hoped some ballistics testing could be done on cartridges to trace the movements of individual shooters. This idea was borrowed from the National Park Service dig at the Little Big Horn (Douglas Scott, Personal Communication, 1985). Although the Arizona Department of Public Safety agreed help with some of the ballistics testing, 'a substantial number of cartridges were found to be too corroded to run the tests'. Therefore, the attempt to trace individual shooter's movements was not possible at this time. The artifacts will be stored at the repository at Scottsdale Community College."

I added the emphesis.

Now if the cartridges were too corroded in Arizona, a dry environment, the photos of the site in the book are typical of what you would think Arizona to be, sand rocks and sagebrush, I am very skeptical of any results from a very damp environment, ie: Montana. Now thats just me, I of course could be wrong, its happened before. :) "



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