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Posted by Gary Gideon on Friday, 25 March 2011, at 4:30 p.m.
I'm new here, but have seen some interesting stuff. I've spent the better part of the past few months attempting to help a widow dispose of a fairly large collection of firearms, among which are 4 Trapdoors. Research has been fairly easy and all of them are in very good to excellent condition, with all markings and cartouches, except for the 1884. I'll give as much info as possible here, in hopes that someone can help discover more about it.
SN: 547418 45-70 Barrel: 23" U.S. 310 on Butt Plate Springfield Armory Barrel Markings are very clear No carouches, or other marks on stock.
According to what we've been able to find, the SN is too high and the barrel is 1" too long for a "Carbine".
The trigger is grooved and checkered. Trigger plate is definitely not like anything else we've found. Stock is very well fitted but looks almost like a "Mannlicher" style. Case hardening colors are still good. Barrel and rings range from blue to purple/brown with no pitting. Cleaning rod has been broken off to fit length, and will fall out if muzzle is pointed down. Rear sight "appears" to be original. Front site, not. Other than the ill-fitting and broken rod, this gun is beautiful to behold, and has a number of interested "lookers".
Obviously, this gun has been customized. I figured it must have belonged to and been done by some modern black powder shooter. However, when I opened the Butt Plate compartment, I discovered 2 "copper-primed" live cartridges. In showing and discussing them with cartridge collectors, I've been told that copper primers have not been made since cir. 1900. So, it may be possible that the custom work was done pre-1900. The work is, overall, really nice, But makes it very difficult to grade and price.
I have some OK photos, if someone out there can use them to help me out.
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