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Re: #452669 & #522593

Posted by Pete Nelson on Sunday, 27 February 2011, at 1:45 p.m., in response to #452669 & #522593, posted by Tom Moore on Sunday, 27 February 2011, at 11:30 a.m.

Hello Tom,

I had just typed up a whole long response to your inquiry on both S/Ns - - and promptly lost it from the screen (a relatively-frequent occurrence for me).

So, I won't go back into all that detail again, but my basic findings were:

a) The first gun is DEFINITELY a "hit" in the SRS VOLUME-I. S/N 452669 is listed in VOLUME-1 on Page 28 as an "84C" (Model 1884 Carbine) and associated (1898) with "TROOP-A of the 1ST NEVADA VOLUNTEER CAVALRY".

b) I checked all (4) VOLUMES for S/N 552593, but it is not listed in any of them. According to the "MODEL 1884 CARBINE PRODUCTION" table on Page 273 of Al's "THE .45-70 SPRINGFIELD, BHOOK II (1865-1893)", the change in the Breech Block stamping from "U.S./MODEL/1873" to "U.S./MODEL/1884" occurred around mid-1887 at S/N circa 366000. I don't have a clue about the hole in the Trigger Bow, but the "A" (or one of several other letters) on the top of the barrel is a relatively common occurrence. One of the letters (perhaps the "A") is normally found oriented parallel, I believe, with the Barrel centerline whereas the others ("V" being one) are normally oriented perpendicular to it. I don't know that any generally-accepted explanation for their significance has yet been forthcoming.

And before I foget it, if you are the same Tom Moore who hangs out with Al, "Red" Daugherty, Tony Arpaia, Dave Szymkowiac, and the "TRAPDOOR GANG" at the Ohio Civil War Collectors Show at Mansfield, I have a very nice snap[shot of you sound asleep at your table in the Arts & Crafts Building at the 2010 Mansfield Show (I'm selling them at $25 a print [:>)]).

I hope the information is helpful, and congratulations on making the SRS "HIT". Best regards,



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