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Re: Non-Custer Carbines SN check

Posted by Pete Nelson on Thursday, 11 November 2010, at 7:57 a.m., in response to Re: Non-Custer Carbines SN check, posted by JasonZ in MO on Wednesday, 10 November 2010, at 10:34 p.m.

Good morning Jason,

Yeh - - I really can't complain about my employment history. 40+ years with (basically) the same company and only laid off twice - - for a matter of a few weeks, both times with unemployement and then re-hired each time with full restitution of benefits - - AND RAISES EACH TIME (WOW! Sounds like "OBAMACARE").

Relative to the barrel lining: the gentleman's name (there are others who do it, but he is acknowledged to be one of the best) is:

Bob (Robert A.) Hoyt, Proprietor


700 Fairfield Station Road Fairfield, Pennsylvania 17320


Bob built much of his own equipment and is pretty much of a one-man show. He has a nice little brochure ($2.00) which he sends along with the guns when he ships them back to you. I had mine (a Model 1884 .45-70 Carbine which I had bought from Red Daugherty at the Mansfield, Ohio Civil War Show in May of 2006 to use as a shooter) done in November of 2006. I dismantled it and just sent him the complete barreled action with breech block and hinge pin, but with the M1884 "Buffington" rear sight (slotted screws, of course) removed. The job - - including his UPS return charges ($15.00) - - ran $215.00 total.

I have never fired any "store-bought" .45-70 ammunition, either black powder or smokeless or duplex, but I understand that "BLACK DAWGE" is supposed to be pretty good. I got into the hand-loading right from the start and bought all of the presses and dies (Lee) from MidwayUSA, along with the powder scales and other paraphernalia. I bought the bullets (the 405-grain hollow-base Carbine and 500-grain flat-base Rifle) from Frank Ehrenford at Mount Baldy Bullets out in Cody, Wyoming. They are cast in 20:1 Lead:Tin Alloy with 3 lubricant grooves, and they come lubed with SPG Black Powder Lube in styrofoam trays of 50 each. I use Federal Large Magnum Rifle Primers (bought locally) and Starline Nickel-plated .45-70 Government cases (from MidwayUSA) with GOEX FFg Black Powder (bought locally). I went hand-load mainly for the fun of it and to try (like Spence Wolf) to emulate the fine work of the old Frankford Arsenal. I bought a SHOOTING CHRONY chronograph system to measure velocities and compare with the published results from Spence Wolf quoted from Frankford Arseal records. They were pretty close.

More later. Good hearing from you, and next time I get out to Ballwin we'll have to try to link up (the St. Louis Anheuser-Busch brewery tour is a great one, if you've never been there!).




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