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Re: Custer Carbines

Posted by Pete Nelson on Monday, 8 November 2010, at 6:07 p.m., in response to Re: Custer Carbines, posted by Dick Hosmer on Monday, 8 November 2010, at 5:19 p.m.

Good evening Terry,

There have been so many (EXCELLENT) postings on this thread that I am not sure I am responding to the appropriate one (as a matter of fact, I DID already try to post this response right after I read your posting of Tuesday, 2 November 2010 at 1:42 p.m. - - and lost it (again) somewhere in cyberspace.

I had said that I checked the breech blocks on both my M1870 Rifle (the one I bought from Al in 2005 which has the "656" stamped on the barrel side of the barrel/receiver interface) and my M1870 carbine, and I also went over the two "loose" breech blocks and two which are part of my side-collection of Springfield components (I have about a dozen total stripped blocks and complete block assemblies (i.e., firing pin and latch-assembly)representing all models from the 1865 "1st Allin Alteration" rifle right up through the Model 1888 Round Rod-Bayonet rifle - - including the M1870 "replacement" blocks which have the Eagle-Head-and-Arrows and "US", but no word "MODEL" nor date.

I used a high-intensity work light and carefully cleaned the area around the "US", or "U.S.", looking for any trace of the elusive periods. The two M1870 "replacment" blocks had the entire stamping sequence highlighted in white some years ago, most likely by the previous owner. Now on both of those (the stripped block and the one in the complete block assembly) the periods were quite plainly visible and were right where they should be and quite legibly stamped. As for the others:

BLOCK #1: Stripped and stamped "1869": Periods are present.

BLOCK #2: Stripped and stamped "1870": Periods are present.

BLOCK #3: "Replacement" block, stripped and stamped only with the Eagle-Head-and-Arrows" and "U.S." (no word "MODEL nor DATE").

BLOCK #4: In a breech block assembly and stamped "1869": Periods are missing - - or at least NOT visible.

BLOCK #5: In a breech block assembly and stamped with Eagle-Head-plus-Arrows and "1870": Not sure (the surface of the block just behind the hinge is rough and has some pock-marks, which could be periods - - but the locations are a slight bit off where they should be.

BLOCK #6: A "Replacment" block with no "MODEL nor DATE and just the Eagle-Head-plus-Arrows (the finish on the block is dark blue and like new, and the stampings have been highlighted in white, but a long time ago. The periods are definitely there and quite plainly visible.

I don't know whether or not this will be at all helpful.

With best regards,



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