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Re: M84 Rifle SSN 382369

Posted by JasonZ in MO on Monday, 8 November 2010, at 2:22 p.m., in response to M84 Rifle SSN 382369, posted by Randy Bowers on Monday, 8 November 2010, at 1:26 p.m.

I'm absolutely not an expert but I can tell you want I have learned from my very recent studies.

I understand the Springfield Armory was very strict with quality control, standards, processes and procedures. I'm sure all plates from the Springfield Armory, originals or replacements would have been stamped; eagle/US/Springfield. Early lockplates would also have the year "1873". The year was dropped a couple years into production. I don't have a reference with me so I can't be specific.

The markings on a carbine lockplate I have are worn and very faint. Without good lighting and a magnifying glass it's almost invisible. At least not with my older eyes... If your plate has some surface rust or is worn like mine it might just be gone or buried under the oxidation. From the other plates I have inspected they were not stamped extremely deep.

About being an "after market" I think there was some of this going on from a company called Bannerman. However, as I understand the story, when their source of Springfield lockplates dried up their replacements would have been dated; 1884.

Another tidbit I read about... Once the trapdoors were written off and sold on the surplus market some companies ground off all the references to "US". I think this was done to prevent any legal trouble. But that would have included the "US" stamped on the breechblock and butt plate.

I hope this gives you something to think about until the experts can respond! Please remember Iím still learning.



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