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Re: Model 1873 Carbine / new user

Posted by Jason Z in MO on Monday, 20 September 2010, at 12:09 p.m., in response to Re: Model 1873 Carbine / new user, posted by Dick Hosmer on Monday, 20 September 2010, at 1:36 a.m.

Dick,

Yesterday when I wrote the original post I was traveling and working from memory. You are correct the block is stamped "US Model 1873". Under a magnifying glass I can see the remnants of the 6th digit, I believe it's a 5 but need to study a bit longer to confirm. The entire number is 115475 or 115476.

I don't see any signs of the stock or barrel being cut down. The front site looks like its original position. The barrel band is removed by depressing a spring loaded bar in the forearm. No sign of the stock being plugged for the cleaning rod. Unfortunately, I think the stock has been sanded. I would assume it would have a lot more wear then it does. I also think it was repaired at some point. There is a wood screw counter sunk deeply behind the tang screw. There appears to be a glue line running forward along the grain. I think the screw was used to help clamp the stock. No sling swivels. I will look again at the stock for any signs sling or swivel wear. On the left side the bar and ring are gone but mounts are there held by the lock bolt screws. The remains of the bar have been filed smooth with their mounting plates. The butt plate looks original on this stock. The holes are drilled into the stock for the tools.

Moving to the barrel. What I originally thought was some types of stampings are actually the remains of the rear site screws. I assume someone was trying to remove the site and rounded of the heads. There attempts to remove the screws failed and they abandoned the job by filing the heads down smooth but left a couple of small 1/8" gouges with the file. The barrel does have a "VP P" stamp. I cleaned and oiled the bore. I used only Hoppies #9 and Rem oil. Looks very nice to my un-trained eye however I don't seem much rifling. Perhaps a brush will help or it needs to be re-rifled.

The lock plate must have seen some wear because I can just make out what's left of the initials "US" everything else is gone. The hammer mounting screw head has also been broken off but the hammer doesn't seem to be loose. This will also need to be repaired. I learned a lot from looking at the for sale section. I don't know what it means but I think I have a 3 position tumbler. The hammer will pull back to 3 positions: 1/4 off the firing pin, 2/3's back and full back. The trigger guard does not have provisions for a sling. The trigger is serrated.

I still havenít figured out what which stamp is considered the cartouche. I though it was the eagle on the lock plate but now I think it might be a mark on the stock. Can you clear this up for me?

The pictures I took are not the best but I sent them anyway. More will follow.

Thank you so much for your help!


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