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Re: Couple of questions about Trapdoor Receiver

Posted by Pete Nelson on Tuesday, 14 September 2010, at 12:23 p.m., in response to Couple of questions about Trapdoor Receiver, posted by Bill M. on Tuesday, 14 September 2010, at 11:14 a.m.

Hi Bill,

Looking in the (4) Volumes of the SRS "SERIAL NUMBERS OF U.S. MARTIAL ARMS" I found:


14042 falls right within a group of (7) Model 1873 Rifles ("73R") with serial numbers rangine from 14166 through 14677 [those (7) are the only 14000-series Springfield arms listed). 15009 is listed as a "86R", and following that is a string of about 25 Model 1873 Carbines ("73C") ranging from 15238 through 16830 (with 15732 being a "73R").


Here they list only (7) 14000-series guns ("73R" and "84R") with only one Model 1873 Carbine (14806).


Here there are only (5) 14000-series guns listed [(3) of them being "73R" and one "69R", which should probably be a "69A" Cadet]. The only Model 1873 Carbine listed is 14527.


There are only (3) 14000-series gunslisted here, all of them listed as "73R":

14166 being "17TH INFANTRY (LOST)". 14169 being in the Springfield Armory Museum [SPAR #5668]. and 14240 also being in the Springfield Armory Museum [SPAR #5688].

Sorry, but that really tell us very much, does it?

Apparently the Model 1874 Stacking Swivel Bands were not very popular with the Cavalry Troops, and, as I understand it, were later on issued ONLY by special request from commanding officers. In his "THE .45-70 SPRINGFIELD, BOOK II (1865-1893)" Al Frasca covers this matter in Chapter 11, Paragraph 11-6 (Page 156), saying:

"If early issue rifles and carbines remained in service after September, 1874, they maye have been upgraded with the new stacking bands (Model 1874). However, the cavalry found the stacking band awkward and preferred that it not be used. Springfield then only issued the carbine with the stacking swivel 'if requested' and goes on to quote a letter dated National Armory, February 10th, 1879 to the Chief of Ordnance from J.G. Benton, Lt. Colonel, Commanding, suggesting that the 500 carbine bands being prepared be "...of the old pattern WITHOUT THE STACKING SWIVEL..." and stating: "...I am informed that the swivel is found to be in the way on the carbine, and it is seldom if ever used in the service...".



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