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Re: model 1884 round rod bayonet rifle
Posted by John on Tuesday, 1 December 2009, at 9:22 p.m., in response to model 1884 round rod bayonet rifle, posted by Jim Bongiovanni on Tuesday, 1 December 2009, at 1:43 p.m.
Terminology can sometimes be confusing.
You have what is usually called the Model 1888 rod bayonet rifle, based on the serial number and cartouche date. There were about 65,000 of these made. Nice collector items, but not especially scarce.
The one usually called Model 1884 is in the 319,000-321,000 range and only 1,000 were made circa 1884-85, and many of those later converted to Model 1888 configuration. Visually these look a lot like the Model 1888 except the fingers on the latch are flush with the latch itself, while on the 1888 they reach around underneath the latch. These are REALLY scarce!
There is another, earlier, experiment rifle (1,000 made) made with a triangular rod bayonet which was triangular shaped for about 18", not just the little section at the tip on the others which most resembles a Phillips screwdriver with only three instead of four points. These are in the 155,000-157,000 range with circa 1880-81 dates. These are scarce, but not as scarce as the M1884 rod bayonet model.
Obviously the values will differ greatly, with the M1888 being worth very roughly a third of a comparable condition 1880 triangular model or one forth of a M1884 model.
A much better description is available on the main page of this site at the Model ID section.
Hope that helps.
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