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Re: 1877 Carbine

Posted by Dick Hosmer on Saturday, 30 May 2009, at 11:53 p.m., in response to Re: 1877 Carbine, posted by Dick Hosmer on Friday, 29 May 2009, at 12:57 a.m.

My PERSONAL definition of an "1877 Carbine" is as follows (YMMV):

One of the 2496 made 1877-1978 with the M1877 rear sight ONLY, serial numbers roughly 75000-90000. Some may have high-arch (but no eaglehead) blocks, but the filled arch is preferable. Some may have the dated lockplate, but "without date" is preferable. Butt trap with "keyhole" plate: three rods with the early HSE tool AROUND the center section (all rod holes same depth).

I consider all earlier carbines to be "Model 1873s", and those later ones, with wide receiver and M1879 sights, to be "Model 1879s". To SA, of course, they - but NOT rifles and cadets - were "Model 1877s" up until the adoption of the M1884.

That is my idiosyncrisy, desiring to "call a break" at the major receiver change at 96300/late 1878. There is really no argument at the front end, since to find the next most recent run of carbines requires dipping well under 50000. Going forward, the situation is not so clear, but I am comfortable with, and feel confident in defending, my logic.


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