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Re: Mr Hosmers new long range

Posted by Dick Hosmer on Saturday, 28 February 2009, at 1:44 a.m., in response to Re: Mr Hosmers new long range, posted by Ernie Brandt on Friday, 27 February 2009, at 11:47 p.m.

Hi Ernie,

No close-ups yet, but there will be - I still need to take them for the book. There are some pics of the sights in Sellers' book.

As to the barrel, on THAT type of LR (there were basically *three versions) the barrel is not drilled at all, and there is an "H" over "R" mark on top of the barrel, about where an "A" is frequently seen on service rifles.

*in a nut-shell - definitely oversimplified - off the top of my head:

(1) Looks a LOT like service rifle, but most have 6 groove barrel, Bull sight (M77 or M79 with windage SCREW), a few have Hotchkiss butt, dated 1879 or 1880, or UNdated small "SWP", scattered at random in WIDE (118xxx - 136xxx) range (16 +/- made). Many small differences - possibly no two 100% identical.

I have 118789, 6G, with small "SWP" non-Hotchkiss stock, and metal PG (not contemporary, but stock clearly had one) and replica Bull sight.

(2) Sharps sights, all w/Hotchkiss butt, 6-groove, pistol grip, "SWP/1881", all in 1620xx range. (24 made)

(3) Bull sights, all w/Hotchkiss butt, 6 groove, few w/PG, all "SWP/1881", all known specimens in 1624xx range (151 supposedly made, yet no 1623xx or 1625xx yet recorded, afaik). This was the "standardized" version, after weeding out what they wanted and didn't want - see version (1) - and deciding that the Sharps sights were a needless extravagance.

I am restoring an 1880 Hotchkiss-type stock, bought from Al, which will be used, along with a replica Bull sight, as a "visual example" of a type 3. Looking for a 6 groove barrel and genuine Bull sight(s). :-)


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